{"id":33025,"date":"2021-10-01T10:12:02","date_gmt":"2021-10-01T09:12:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/?p=33025"},"modified":"2024-06-14T16:42:35","modified_gmt":"2024-06-14T15:42:35","slug":"valj-inte-for-stor-laddbox-till-elbilen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/valj-inte-for-stor-laddbox-till-elbilen\/","title":{"rendered":"V\u00c4LJ INTE F\u00d6R STOR LADDBOX TILL ELBILEN"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>VAL AV LADDBOX ENKELT<\/h3>\n<h3>Uppdaterad 240615<\/h3>\n<h3>Utvecklingen g\u00e5r snabbt 2024 har jag helt annan uppfattning Ladda s\u00e5 mycket du kan och\u00a0 ta emot v\u00e4xelstr\u00f6m 11KW 6-7 mil i timmen\u00a0 klarar de flesta bilar k\u00f6r p\u00e5 det \u00e4ven om det kostar\u00a0 lite mer med en s\u00e4kring p\u00e5 20A.<\/h3>\n<p>2021 l\u00e4t det s\u00e5 h\u00e4r&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>Om bilen st\u00e5r parkerad p\u00e5 egen garageplats d\u00e4r det finns m\u00f6jlighet till att installera en laddbox<\/p>\n<p>V\u00e4lj\u00a0 d\u00e5 <strong>minsta enfas laddboxen<\/strong> med\u00a0 liten\u00a0 laddeffekt -de flesta beh\u00f6ver\u00a0 bara ladda med 6 eller 10 ampere\u00a0 max 2,5 KW\u00a0 eller 1- 1,5 mil i timmen med egen laddbox d\u00e5 bilen befinner sig p\u00e5 garageplatsen\u00a0 mesta tiden hos de flesta.<\/p>\n<p>Man beh\u00f6ver bara kunna kunna st\u00e4lla in laddboxen\u00a0 n\u00e4r den ska ladda p\u00e5 dygnet och kanske\u00a0 ha en effektbegr\u00e4nsare\u00a0 kopplad till elsystemet dessutom en avl\u00e4sbar\u00a0 kwhm\u00e4tare\u00a0 p\u00e5 laddboxen.\u00a0 Inst\u00e4llningar via app i mobilen\u00a0 \u00a0i n\u00e4rkontakt med boxen eller\u00a0 via wifi<\/p>\n<p><strong>Helt on\u00f6digt f\u00f6r de flesta med egen garageplats att ladda mer \u00e4n 1- 1,5 mil\/timme enfas 6A-10A som motsvarar\u00a0 max 1,7-2,5KWh varje timme och som inneb\u00e4r max 2,5\u00a0 kW effekt.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/ladda-elbil-egen.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-33026\" src=\"https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/ladda-elbil-egen.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"327\" height=\"154\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/ladda-elbil-egen.jpg 327w, https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/ladda-elbil-egen-300x141.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 327px) 100vw, 327px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><strong>VARF\u00d6R?<\/strong><\/h3>\n<article class=\"article cf\">\n<div class=\"article-container\">\n<div class=\"article-carousel \">\n<div class=\"js-carousel carousel is-carousel\">\n<div class=\"bx-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"bx-controls bx-has-controls-direction bx-has-pager\"><strong>Snart blir det\u00a0 uttagen max effekt som grund f\u00f6r vad\u00a0 elpriset\u00a0 \u00a0kr\/kwh ska vara p\u00e5 m\u00e5nadens uttag av kWh\u00a0 Det kan bli dyrt f\u00f6r all el vid f\u00f6r stora momentana effektuttag\u00a0 om man laddar bilen med f\u00f6r h\u00f6g effekt.<\/strong>.<\/div>\n<div class=\"bx-controls bx-has-controls-direction bx-has-pager\">Allt fler eln\u00e4tbolag kommer att inf\u00f6ra effekttariffer f\u00f6r att j\u00e4mna ut effektuttaget i eln\u00e4tet f\u00f6r att slippa g\u00f6ra on\u00f6diga investeringar som bara anv\u00e4nds under korta tider p\u00e5 dygnet.<\/div>\n<div class=\"bx-controls bx-has-controls-direction bx-has-pager\">Det har redan b\u00f6rjat i G\u00f6teborg 2021\u00a0 d\u00e4r den h\u00f6gsta effekten man tar ut under <strong>en m\u00e5nad<\/strong> blir v\u00e4gledande &#8211; <strong>kostar skjortan att ladda elbil med f\u00f6r h\u00f6g effekt d\u00e5 det drabbar all el <\/strong>oberoende av tid p\u00e5 dygnet d\u00e4r.-<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<p>Varf\u00f6r ladda bilen\u00a0 p\u00e5 3 timmar hemma n\u00e4r man kan g\u00f6ra det p\u00e5 10-15 timmar ist\u00e4llet\u00a0 d\u00e5 bilen \u00e4nd\u00e5 st\u00e5r\u00a0 den mesta tiden p\u00e5 garageplatsen f\u00f6r de flesta.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Snabbladda p\u00e5\u00a0 ett eltankst\u00e4lle\u00a0 \u00a0och toppladda l\u00e5ngsamt i garaget \u00e4r betydligt kostnadseffektivare de f\u00e5 g\u00e5nger man beh\u00f6ver &#8221;full tank &#8221; dagen efter.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Finns liten anledning att installera\u00a0 f\u00f6r h\u00f6g laddeffekt\u00a0 som inte kommer att kunna utnyttjas p\u00e5 den egna\u00a0 laddplatsen . Anv\u00e4nd befintliga resurs\u00a0 <strong>tiden\u00a0<\/strong> och utnyttja tiden bilen st\u00e5r ofta p\u00e5 garageplatsen. ist\u00e4llet\u00a0 En tid som kan utnyttjas f\u00f6r l\u00e5ngsam billig\u00a0 laddning\u00a0 \u00a0en tillg\u00e4nglig tid som \u00e4r betydligt l\u00e4ngre \u00e4n du kanske anar?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bilen st\u00e5r mesta tiden\u00a0 i garaget\u00a0 f\u00f6r de flesta<\/strong> och\u00a0 kan ladda minst 10-15 mil\/dygn under 10 timmars laddtid p\u00e5 natten\u00a0 \u00a0b\u00e4sta laddtid 20-06<\/p>\n<p>M\u00e5nga\u00a0 k\u00f6r s\u00e4llan mer \u00e4n\u00a0 \u00a0h\u00f6gst 10 mil\/dag under\u00a0 5 arbetsdagar som bara det motsvarar\u00a0 \u00a0 2000-2500 mil\/ \u00e5r De flesta bilar rullar faktiskt kring 1500 mil\/\u00e5r\u00a0 och har mest lokalk\u00f6rning.<\/p>\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/elbil.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-33053\" src=\"https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/elbil.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"275\" height=\"184\" \/><\/a><\/h3>\n<h4>EGNA LADDBOXAR MED STORA EFFEKTER on\u00f6diga och blir dyra att ladda med<\/h4>\n<p>UTBUD\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.evify.se\/ladda-bilen-hemma\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>LADDBOXAR OKTOBER 2021<\/strong><\/a> F\u00d6R HEMMABRUK \u00c4R HELT FEL F\u00d6R DE FLESTA MED\u00a0 ON\u00d6DIGT STORA LADDEFFEKTER SOM BLIR SVINDYRT FRAM\u00d6VER OCH INTE KAN UTNYTTJAS<\/p>\n<p>De f\u00e5 g\u00e5nger man beh\u00f6ver ladda fullt b\u00e4ttre att\u00a0 planera som man \u00e4r van vid med k\u00f6rning elbil -snabbladda till 80% p\u00e5\u00a0 en elmack\u00a0 dagen innan och l\u00e5ta bilen toppladda\u00a0 till 100% p\u00e5 egna laddplatsen med 1-1,5 mil i timmen. under natten innan l\u00e5ngk\u00f6rningen<\/p>\n<p>Det kommer inte att beh\u00f6vas s\u00e5 m\u00e5nga g\u00e5nger under ett bil\u00e5r om man bara k\u00f6r 1500-2000 mil\/\u00e5r De allra flesta bilarna g\u00e5r mindre \u00e4n 1500 mil\/\u00e4r<\/p>\n<p>De flesta har d\u00e5lig koll p\u00e5 sin k\u00f6rprofil- <strong>TIPS\u00a0 koppla in k\u00f6rjournalen p\u00e5 bilen<\/strong>(Volvo) eller anv\u00e4nd\u00a0 \u00a0<strong>k\u00f6rloggen i appen <\/strong>(KIA) och mata in alla dagsv\u00e4rden i ett Excelark under ett \u00e5r s\u00e5 f\u00e5r man j\u00e4rnkoll. p\u00e5 sin genomsnittliga\u00a0 k\u00f6rprofil<\/p>\n<p><strong>Om man har koll p\u00e5 sin k\u00f6rprofil vad man k\u00f6r varje dag\u00a0 inser man direkt vad det handlar om<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/laddsmart.se\/laddboxar\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>L\u00c4S MER OM LADDBOXAR P\u00c5 LADDSMART<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/laddsmart.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-33055\" src=\"https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/laddsmart.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"294\" height=\"89\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>MIN K\u00d6RPROFIL 2020-21<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Exempel som visar p\u00e5 hur man kan analysera\u00a0 laddbehov under \u00e5ret och inse hur liten laddare man faktiskt beh\u00f6ver hemma\u00a0 eller hur m\u00e5nga mil man kan anv\u00e4nda batteriet i en laddhybrid\u00a0 med sin egen k\u00f6rprofil\u00a0 . Dvs f\u00f6rutsp\u00e5 ganska noggrannt vad en laddhybrid kommer att dra i br\u00e4nsle i genomsnitt ett \u00e5r med min\u00a0 egen k\u00f6rprofil.<\/p>\n<p>200.-300 mil kortare pandemi\u00e5ret\u00a0 2020-21\u00a0 f\u00f6r min del\u00a0 2-3 l\u00e5ngk\u00f6rningar sammanlagt har bortfallit\u00a0 mot normal\u00e5ret d\u00e5 kanske 20-40 elmil ytterligare ha kunnat anv\u00e4ndas i laddhybrid\u00a0 .<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/niroh1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-32604\" src=\"https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/niroh1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"944\" height=\"522\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/niroh1.png 944w, https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/niroh1-300x166.png 300w, https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/niroh1-768x425.png 768w, https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/niroh1-672x372.png 672w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 944px) 100vw, 944px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/elmilsasong1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-33103\" src=\"https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/elmilsasong1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"534\" height=\"248\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/elmilsasong1.png 534w, https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/elmilsasong1-300x139.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 534px) 100vw, 534px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Anm<\/strong> K\u00f6rde Volvodiesel\u00a0 \u00a0XC60\u00a0 5 \u00e5r\u00a0 fram till-2020 den drog 0,72 lit\/mil i snitt\u00a0 under \u00e5ret <strong>som dieselbil<\/strong> mot KIA Niro <strong>Bensinhybridens<\/strong> 0,5 lit\/mil Ingen st\u00f6rre skillnad p\u00e5 \u00e5kkomfort men\u00a0 XC60 n\u00e5got tystare fr\u00e5n v\u00e4gljud i baks\u00e4tet och\u00a0 \u00a0NiroCrossovern\u00a0 lastar n\u00e5got mindre Man \u00e5ker lika bra 4 personer med bagage i b\u00e5da bilarna. Tog m\u00e5nga \u00e5r innan jag fattade att KIA i Sydkorea har k\u00f6rt om Volvo med r\u00e5ge\u00a0 f\u00f6r privatpersoner med Value for Money\u00a0 och med\u00a0 minst samma teknikniv\u00e5..<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Bilen k\u00f6ptes 17\/4\u00a0 2020 d\u00e4rav lite f\u00e4rre\u00a0 mil\u00a0 april m\u00e5nad som \u00e4r exempel p\u00e5 analys i ett excelblad\u00a0 hur man enkelt kan plocka ut hur m\u00e5nga elmil man f\u00e5r med ett\u00a0 i detta fall 5 milabatteri med sin egen k\u00f6rprofil.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/april.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-32998\" src=\"https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/april.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"279\" height=\"283\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Mera av min k\u00f6rprofil senaste \u00e5ret<\/p>\n<p><strong>Olika typer av v\u00e4g\u00a0 ett k\u00f6r\u00e5r 2020\/21<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/kiaNprofilvagara.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-33035\" src=\"https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/kiaNprofilvagara.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"371\" height=\"53\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/kiaNprofilvagara.png 371w, https:\/\/fatherben.se\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/kiaNprofilvagara-300x43.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 371px) 100vw, 371px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>41% kan laddas<\/strong><em>\u00a0 ifall jag haft en laddhybrid med ett 5 -milabatteri<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0Anm<\/strong><em> Laddhybriden KIA\u00a0 Niro hade f\u00f6rbrukat\u00a0 (1-0,41)*0,5=0,3 liter\/mil som genomsnitt under f\u00f6rsta \u00e5ret\u00a0 WLTP v\u00e4rdet \u00e4r visserligen 0,14 lit\/mil men d\u00e5 m\u00e5ste man k\u00f6ra 70% av milen p\u00e5 el.faktum \u00e4r att\u00a0 WLTP -v\u00e4rdet f\u00f6r laddhybrider \u00e4r t.o.m. mindre tillf\u00f6rlitligt\u00a0 \u00e4n de gamla\u00a0 NEDC v\u00e4rdena som visade stora fel &#8211; Man\u00a0 \u00a0m\u00e5ste veta sin egen k\u00f6rprofil- f\u00f6r att kunna bed\u00f6ma\u00a0 vad bilen kommer att dra per mil .Tumregel\u00a0 f\u00f6r de flesta \u00e4r\u00a0 2-3 ggr st\u00f6rre f\u00f6rbrukning\u00a0 \u00e4n WLTP\u00a0 D\u00e4remot om man anv\u00e4nder bilen till jobbet varje dag st\u00e4mmer WLTP b\u00e4ttre- Volvos t\u00f6rstiga\u00a0 laddhybrider\u00a0 f\u00e5r inga milj\u00f6bidrag l\u00e4ngre d\u00e5 \u00e4ven\u00a0 politikerna\u00a0 \u00a0nu har\u00a0 fattat att WLTP v\u00e4rdet \u00e4r helt missvisande f\u00f6r stora tunga\u00a0 laddhybrider\u00a0 \u00a0d\u00e5 man k\u00f6r mycket\u00a0 mer landsv\u00e4g med stora bilar.\u00a0 Volvos tunga SUVAR\u00a0 drar minst 0,8-1 liter milen p\u00e5 landsv\u00e4gen n\u00e4r batteriet slut .Det neb\u00e4r att <\/em><em>Volvos laddhybrider ( TWIN ENGINE och\u00a0 RECHARGE\u00a0 drar\u00a0 70% mer \u00e4n KIas laddhybrid\u00a0 Niro . Man ser\u00a0 det enkelt\u00a0 n\u00e4r\u00a0 man\u00a0 j\u00e4mf\u00f6r WLTP v\u00e4rdena .<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>VOLVOS LADDHYBRIDER\u00a0 har WLTP\u00a0 0,24\u00a0 \u00a0lit\/mil i j\u00e4mf\u00f6relse med\u00a0 WLTP 0,14 liter per mil\u00a0 f\u00f6r KIA Niro Laddhybrid. 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